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		<title>By: bmfrosty</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12597</link>
		<dc:creator>bmfrosty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now we&#039;re running head on into the problems with the ATSC.  They should have standardized on 24p video in the first place, broadcast should have been 24p, and 30p/60i should have been an available but discouraged alternative only for the rebroadcast of older media.  Early sets should have been at 60i, but it should have been left to the tuner to telecine the video for display.  Later displays could have refreshed at 72p and then 120p to be nicely factorable into multiple other display rates.

Interlacing made sense when everything was based around cathode ray tubes, but every newer display tech has to do all sorts of compensation to deal with deinterlacing.  

Other things that should have happened were the abolishment of overscan and a standardization on a single resolution.  I&#039;m appalled that all the options make it nearly impossible to have a single set that will display everything equally well.

Of course when I rant on like this I tend to forget that the ATSC was trying to maintain some compatibility with Japan&#039;s Hi-Vision (1080i but in 4:3 format), but even then it still drives me a bit nutty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we&#8217;re running head on into the problems with the ATSC.  They should have standardized on 24p video in the first place, broadcast should have been 24p, and 30p/60i should have been an available but discouraged alternative only for the rebroadcast of older media.  Early sets should have been at 60i, but it should have been left to the tuner to telecine the video for display.  Later displays could have refreshed at 72p and then 120p to be nicely factorable into multiple other display rates.</p>
<p>Interlacing made sense when everything was based around cathode ray tubes, but every newer display tech has to do all sorts of compensation to deal with deinterlacing.  </p>
<p>Other things that should have happened were the abolishment of overscan and a standardization on a single resolution.  I&#8217;m appalled that all the options make it nearly impossible to have a single set that will display everything equally well.</p>
<p>Of course when I rant on like this I tend to forget that the ATSC was trying to maintain some compatibility with Japan&#8217;s Hi-Vision (1080i but in 4:3 format), but even then it still drives me a bit nutty.</p>
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		<title>By: deanm3</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12595</link>
		<dc:creator>deanm3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matthew

That might be a problem. There is no standard 720p/24hz signal that HDTV&#039;s will recognize. There are plenty of 720p native TV&#039;s that will accept at 1080/24 signal and display at a refresh rate that is 24hz friendly, but I am fairly certain that 720p/24 is not part of the HDMI spec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matthew</p>
<p>That might be a problem. There is no standard 720p/24hz signal that HDTV&#8217;s will recognize. There are plenty of 720p native TV&#8217;s that will accept at 1080/24 signal and display at a refresh rate that is 24hz friendly, but I am fairly certain that 720p/24 is not part of the HDMI spec.</p>
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		<title>By: OXI</title>
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		<dc:creator>OXI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24p in 720 and 1080 would be the killer feature that makes all other players meaningless.

Wish list number ONE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24p in 720 and 1080 would be the killer feature that makes all other players meaningless.</p>
<p>Wish list number ONE!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12581</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True 24p playback would be awesome especially if it played back at 24p in 720 (768) as well as 1080 resolution!!!

Fingers crossed :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True 24p playback would be awesome especially if it played back at 24p in 720 (768) as well as 1080 resolution!!!</p>
<p>Fingers crossed <img src='http://elan.plexapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: deanm3</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12580</link>
		<dc:creator>deanm3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, I guess I&#039;ll have live up to my promise earlier than I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, I guess I&#8217;ll have live up to my promise earlier than I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: elan</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12577</link>
		<dc:creator>elan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rene: Just hit the Donate button and specify &quot;For EyeTV&quot; and I&#039;ll funnel it all right to a doctor in New Zealand who also happens to be a awesome coder and fellow EyeTV lover :)

@deanm3: I think I&#039;ve actually figured out how to do it finally. Once we get some stability, then on to cool features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rene: Just hit the Donate button and specify &#8220;For EyeTV&#8221; and I&#8217;ll funnel it all right to a doctor in New Zealand who also happens to be a awesome coder and fellow EyeTV lover <img src='http://elan.plexapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@deanm3: I think I&#8217;ve actually figured out how to do it finally. Once we get some stability, then on to cool features.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12576</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elan, where is the link for the EyeTV paypal beer fund!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elan, where is the link for the EyeTV paypal beer fund!!!</p>
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		<title>By: deanm3</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12571</link>
		<dc:creator>deanm3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elan,

I have procured a half dozen voluptuous Bavarian beer maids armed with a near lifetime supply of malted barley and hops, whom are all awaiting the opportunity to ensure that you will never thirst again. 

All you have to do is add 24p sync playback!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elan,</p>
<p>I have procured a half dozen voluptuous Bavarian beer maids armed with a near lifetime supply of malted barley and hops, whom are all awaiting the opportunity to ensure that you will never thirst again. </p>
<p>All you have to do is add 24p sync playback!!!</p>
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		<title>By: travis</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12568</link>
		<dc:creator>travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add me to the list of &quot;willing to buy beer&quot; for eyetv functionality...  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add me to the list of &#8220;willing to buy beer&#8221; for eyetv functionality&#8230;  <img src='http://elan.plexapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: elan</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/08/20/make-sure-youre-using-the-latest-version/#comment-12534</link>
		<dc:creator>elan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@EyeTV aficionados: Our man Ryan has interest in this as well, and he loves beer :)

@Hot Pocket: There&#039;s something funky about that AVI, although it does manage to play well in VLC et. al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@EyeTV aficionados: Our man Ryan has interest in this as well, and he loves beer <img src='http://elan.plexapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Hot Pocket: There&#8217;s something funky about that AVI, although it does manage to play well in VLC et. al.</p>
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