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	<title>Comments on: Smart Crash Reports and the GPL</title>
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		<title>By: watzen</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-11436</link>
		<dc:creator>watzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@barr so far the UI is the same as XBMC&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@barr so far the UI is the same as XBMC&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: barr</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-11405</link>
		<dc:creator>barr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have much respect for the work you do since this is exactly what OSS projects rarely ever get to do: making a program user-friendly (or even barely usable for most).

Yeah, this is absolutely not fun: there&#039;s not much cache line or cpu cycle counting involved. Yet, it will make or break your application. Nobody cares about an application nobody uses or can use.

GPL is the one place that absolutely needs people like you. So it is even more funny to see how you had no other choices but to fork because you were just making it usable for normal people (which somehow must be against the original project plans ;))...

XBMC UI is beyond broken on anything but the XBOX. Plex is showing great promises there so please keep up the excellent work.

Again, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have much respect for the work you do since this is exactly what OSS projects rarely ever get to do: making a program user-friendly (or even barely usable for most).</p>
<p>Yeah, this is absolutely not fun: there&#8217;s not much cache line or cpu cycle counting involved. Yet, it will make or break your application. Nobody cares about an application nobody uses or can use.</p>
<p>GPL is the one place that absolutely needs people like you. So it is even more funny to see how you had no other choices but to fork because you were just making it usable for normal people (which somehow must be against the original project plans <img src='http://elan.plexapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )&#8230;</p>
<p>XBMC UI is beyond broken on anything but the XBOX. Plex is showing great promises there so please keep up the excellent work.</p>
<p>Again, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: elan</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-11006</link>
		<dc:creator>elan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kiwi_in_KC: Thanks, I appreciate it! New Zealand rocks.

@swangy: Your post really made my night, Sam. Thanks ever so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kiwi_in_KC: Thanks, I appreciate it! New Zealand rocks.</p>
<p>@swangy: Your post really made my night, Sam. Thanks ever so much.</p>
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		<title>By: elan</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-11005</link>
		<dc:creator>elan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dd: Uh uh, no name-calling, please. Think civilized, like some place you might go and have tea and crumpets with your grandmother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dd: Uh uh, no name-calling, please. Think civilized, like some place you might go and have tea and crumpets with your grandmother.</p>
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		<title>By: dd</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-11004</link>
		<dc:creator>dd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XBMC FASCISTS!</description>
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		<title>By: Kiwi_in_KC</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-10998</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwi_in_KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elan; great work on this project. I cannot code and would offer to assist with any GPL understanding but I am a neophyte in that area also. I wanted to express my appreciation for the work you are doing and I am hopeful of getting my Mac Mini into my entertainment center soon so I can enjoy the ease that electronic media access brings.

Keep up the excellent work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elan; great work on this project. I cannot code and would offer to assist with any GPL understanding but I am a neophyte in that area also. I wanted to express my appreciation for the work you are doing and I am hopeful of getting my Mac Mini into my entertainment center soon so I can enjoy the ease that electronic media access brings.</p>
<p>Keep up the excellent work.</p>
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		<title>By: Evin / Georg</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-10994</link>
		<dc:creator>Evin / Georg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks für your fantastic work, Elan.

Next week my iMac should finally arrive and I&#039;m really looking forward to use Plex. =D Thank you, and everyone who is involved in this godlike project.

Don&#039;t get frustrated by any trolls; I hope my small donation will help you somehow. 

Greeting from vienna!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks für your fantastic work, Elan.</p>
<p>Next week my iMac should finally arrive and I&#8217;m really looking forward to use Plex. =D Thank you, and everyone who is involved in this godlike project.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get frustrated by any trolls; I hope my small donation will help you somehow. </p>
<p>Greeting from vienna!</p>
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		<title>By: swangy</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-10992</link>
		<dc:creator>swangy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@d4rk: passive agressive comments aside (&quot;innocent&quot; and &quot;amateurishly&quot;), i think if you&#039;re developing OSS it&#039;s understood that the spirit of the GPL is to give away your code to the greater community to allow others to build on your work.  

Your expectations of tight compliance to GPL license may be one thing, but your actions and irreverance to elan on his own forums seem to reflect a bruised ego because someone&#039;s taken your work and built upon it to develop a high profile project.. understandable - we&#039;ve all been there.  All you guys are very talented, but i doubt the WSJ is going to do an article on how you can manipulate some pixels a little bit faster, or whatever it is you do.

But if you&#039;re looking for recognition and glory though, maybe a good first step is not to badger someone who&#039;s shown talent and more importantly an affable attitude towards his counterparts.  Which is much more than i can say for you.

@elan: i&#039;ve seen many talented people give up on less, please dont be discouraged because of a few bad apples.  your little project is the only thing keeping me sane after working 100+hrs a week - the only down time i have, my gf and i spend in front of a Plex(tm) :)

Sam Wang, MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@d4rk: passive agressive comments aside (&#8220;innocent&#8221; and &#8220;amateurishly&#8221;), i think if you&#8217;re developing OSS it&#8217;s understood that the spirit of the GPL is to give away your code to the greater community to allow others to build on your work.  </p>
<p>Your expectations of tight compliance to GPL license may be one thing, but your actions and irreverance to elan on his own forums seem to reflect a bruised ego because someone&#8217;s taken your work and built upon it to develop a high profile project.. understandable &#8211; we&#8217;ve all been there.  All you guys are very talented, but i doubt the WSJ is going to do an article on how you can manipulate some pixels a little bit faster, or whatever it is you do.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re looking for recognition and glory though, maybe a good first step is not to badger someone who&#8217;s shown talent and more importantly an affable attitude towards his counterparts.  Which is much more than i can say for you.</p>
<p>@elan: i&#8217;ve seen many talented people give up on less, please dont be discouraged because of a few bad apples.  your little project is the only thing keeping me sane after working 100+hrs a week &#8211; the only down time i have, my gf and i spend in front of a Plex(tm) <img src='http://elan.plexapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sam Wang, MD</p>
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		<title>By: elan</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-10990</link>
		<dc:creator>elan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ranglin, gusax, Tufty, John, phunkysai, Rickler and everyone else who has expressed their support, with good humor: Thanks a million, you guys make it all worthwhile. Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ranglin, gusax, Tufty, John, phunkysai, Rickler and everyone else who has expressed their support, with good humor: Thanks a million, you guys make it all worthwhile. Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: elan</title>
		<link>http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/07/31/smart-crash-reports-and-the-gpl/#comment-10987</link>
		<dc:creator>elan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AlTheKiller: Sorry I lumped you in with the haters. Let us continue on in peace and with mutual respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AlTheKiller: Sorry I lumped you in with the haters. Let us continue on in peace and with mutual respect.</p>
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