Comments on: Survey Results and Status http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/ The Plex blog Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:09:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: lyra http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2270 lyra Sat, 03 May 2008 06:40:14 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2270 @elan: I have those settings but somehow part of display 2 is showing on the extreme edges of display 1. Some other stuff isnt exactly correct as well. I have to use VLC or use the unofficial hack for front row to use display 2 correctly. @elan:

I have those settings but somehow part of display 2 is showing on the extreme edges of display 1. Some other stuff isnt exactly correct as well. I have to use VLC or use the unofficial hack for front row to use display 2 correctly.

]]> By: elan http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2245 elan Fri, 02 May 2008 20:14:00 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2245 @BigJim: Like I said, I like the idea, but I don't consider it very high priority at the moment over fixing stability issues. Also, I personally haven't had problems playing 1080p content, and most of the people who do have ended up having other issues, like trying to stream it over 802.11b or something. The DLL loading is definitely attractive though as a means of adding support for closed formats as well. @Lyra: Not sure what you mean. If you have it on a secondary display, scroll through the display modes in Settings -> Appearance -> Screen until you see a "full screen" mode for your secondary display. @BigJim: Like I said, I like the idea, but I don’t consider it very high priority at the moment over fixing stability issues. Also, I personally haven’t had problems playing 1080p content, and most of the people who do have ended up having other issues, like trying to stream it over 802.11b or something.

The DLL loading is definitely attractive though as a means of adding support for closed formats as well.

@Lyra: Not sure what you mean. If you have it on a secondary display, scroll through the display modes in Settings -> Appearance -> Screen until you see a “full screen” mode for your secondary display.

]]> By: lyra http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2214 lyra Fri, 02 May 2008 06:04:35 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2214 I forgot to mention my machine in case its relevant. Its one of the original MacPro with 2 dual core 5150 xeons 2.66ghz. I forgot to mention my machine in case its relevant. Its one of the original MacPro with 2 dual core 5150 xeons 2.66ghz.

]]> By: lyra http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2213 lyra Fri, 02 May 2008 06:00:47 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2213 XMBC OSX is working perfectly for me except for one thing. Maybe I am just missing something in the faqs. I need to know how to make the output display on my HDTV. I got the interface on the HDTV no problem but the rest either I am missing something or this feature is not yet available with XBMC OSX. thanks XMBC OSX is working perfectly for me except for one thing. Maybe I am just missing something in the faqs. I need to know how to make the output display on my HDTV. I got the interface on the HDTV no problem but the rest either I am missing something or this feature is not yet available with XBMC OSX.

thanks

]]> By: BigJim http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2212 BigJim Fri, 02 May 2008 05:58:29 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-2212 @elan I suspect there will be a couple different angles for plugging in coreAVC. FWIW I have a dual-core e6300 desktop CPU, and even at 2.8Ghz overclock, smplayer or vlc using ffdshow choke badly. Linux mplayer can be re-compiled to allow coreAVC plugin, but I'm on XP and am left at sea. The trick setup on XP is Media Player Classic, CoreAVC, and AC3filter. But lets get back to the mac. One more thing to emphasize, its not just mac mini that can make a great HTPC, its most mac laptops too! They're pretty much the same hardware. And again, thank you for osxbmc. @elan I suspect there will be a couple different angles for plugging in coreAVC. FWIW I have a dual-core e6300 desktop CPU, and even at 2.8Ghz overclock, smplayer or vlc using ffdshow choke badly. Linux mplayer can be re-compiled to allow coreAVC plugin, but I’m on XP and am left at sea. The trick setup on XP is Media Player Classic, CoreAVC, and AC3filter. But lets get back to the mac. One more thing to emphasize, its not just mac mini that can make a great HTPC, its most mac laptops too! They’re pretty much the same hardware. And again, thank you for osxbmc.

]]> By: elan http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1761 elan Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:54:44 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1761 @BigJim: Thanks for your thoughtful comments. In my experience, my Mini 2.0GHz can play the 1080p x264 rips very well. During a movie I might see a few glitches in fast action scenes, but it's overall nearly perfect. The difference between XBMC and VLC right now is that XBMC has a patch applied to ffmpeg (the infamous "CABAC" patch) which gives *much* improved results on a multicore system. I think certain versions of ffdshow have the patch as well, but I'm not sure. Two well-used cores at 2.0GHz beat one overclocked to 2.8GHz. I think the negative attitude against CoreAVC stems from its "skirting the spec" stance to achieve higher performance. I personally don't see an issue with it as I'd rather see a 1080p movie play without dropping frames *as long as* the skirting doesn't produce annoying visual artifacts. In fact, one of my long term goals for OSXBMC is to allow loading Windows DLLs, which may give us a fairly easy way to be able to plug-in CoreAVC. @BigJim: Thanks for your thoughtful comments. In my experience, my Mini 2.0GHz can play the 1080p x264 rips very well. During a movie I might see a few glitches in fast action scenes, but it’s overall nearly perfect.

The difference between XBMC and VLC right now is that XBMC has a patch applied to ffmpeg (the infamous “CABAC” patch) which gives *much* improved results on a multicore system. I think certain versions of ffdshow have the patch as well, but I’m not sure. Two well-used cores at 2.0GHz beat one overclocked to 2.8GHz.

I think the negative attitude against CoreAVC stems from its “skirting the spec” stance to achieve higher performance. I personally don’t see an issue with it as I’d rather see a 1080p movie play without dropping frames *as long as* the skirting doesn’t produce annoying visual artifacts. In fact, one of my long term goals for OSXBMC is to allow loading Windows DLLs, which may give us a fairly easy way to be able to plug-in CoreAVC.

]]> By: BigJim http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1758 BigJim Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:46:43 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1758 Most of the HD content I watch is 6 GB 1080p h.264 rips of Blu-Ray or HD DVD discs. These are extremely popular on usenet and on private torrents, I would say they are a benchmark. I have an e6300 CPU overclocked from 1.86 up to 2.8Ghz. I am on XP but maybe I will have to put osx86 on the box to find out for sure. My experience is vlc and mplayer using ffdshow simply cannot play the h.264 mkv files without drastic stuttering and loss of audio sync. Nor can they play the 16GB 1080i .ts files. So I am skeptical that a 1.8 or 2.0 Ghz laptop CPU in an Apple mac (mini/ iMac/ laptop, all use the same CPUs) can handle the 1080p that in my experience is a standard. But if you insist I will install osx86 on this hardware and run a test. My other concern is the prejudice in the open source community against coreAVC. Why do they demonize and fight this codec, is it evil because it costs $8? Are they just jealous because it is 2x as fast as any open source codec, but oh yeah, any day now ffdshow will magically double in performance and any day now there will be a 3Ghz mac mini, I am tired of the lies and rationalizations. Anyway, the linux port of mplayer made some accomodation for compiling in a way to integrate an outboard coreAVC codec. It would also allow older macs to play 1080p. I strongly hope this can be integrated into osxbmc. Most of the HD content I watch is 6 GB 1080p h.264 rips of Blu-Ray or HD DVD discs. These are extremely popular on usenet and on private torrents, I would say they are a benchmark. I have an e6300 CPU overclocked from 1.86 up to 2.8Ghz. I am on XP but maybe I will have to put osx86 on the box to find out for sure. My experience is vlc and mplayer using ffdshow simply cannot play the h.264 mkv files without drastic stuttering and loss of audio sync. Nor can they play the 16GB 1080i .ts files. So I am skeptical that a 1.8 or 2.0 Ghz laptop CPU in an Apple mac (mini/ iMac/ laptop, all use the same CPUs) can handle the 1080p that in my experience is a standard. But if you insist I will install osx86 on this hardware and run a test. My other concern is the prejudice in the open source community against coreAVC. Why do they demonize and fight this codec, is it evil because it costs $8? Are they just jealous because it is 2x as fast as any open source codec, but oh yeah, any day now ffdshow will magically double in performance and any day now there will be a 3Ghz mac mini, I am tired of the lies and rationalizations. Anyway, the linux port of mplayer made some accomodation for compiling in a way to integrate an outboard coreAVC codec. It would also allow older macs to play 1080p. I strongly hope this can be integrated into osxbmc.

]]> By: DarkSheer http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1663 DarkSheer Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:15:10 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1663 Oops...didnt notice I could still do the survey. Entered my info :) DarkSheer Oops…didnt notice I could still do the survey. Entered my info :)

DarkSheer

]]> By: DarkSheer http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1661 DarkSheer Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:07:23 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1661 ahhh....didn't get to be part of the survey! :( Norway, Mac mini 2GB, I use Apple Remote Desktop (because I use the mini for lots of other stuff too) and I still use the old Xbox mediacenter in another room. DarkSheer ahhh….didn’t get to be part of the survey! :(

Norway, Mac mini 2GB, I use Apple Remote Desktop (because I use the mini for lots of other stuff too) and I still use the old Xbox mediacenter in another room.

DarkSheer

]]> By: adrian http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1485 adrian Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:12:03 +0000 http://elan.plexapp.com/2008/04/23/survey-results-and-status/#comment-1485 you say why laptops? Thats easy... A laptop loaded with osxbmc is the ultimate media center because it has the same power but its portable, you dont even lose a bit of the experience and yet you can take it to your friends house, parents or set it up in different places at home. With your laptop you dont have an extra computer doing nothing most of the time, you actually keep updating it and getting content for it. you say why laptops? Thats easy…

A laptop loaded with osxbmc is the ultimate media center because it has the same power but its portable, you dont even lose a bit of the experience and yet you can take it to your friends house, parents or set it up in different places at home.

With your laptop you dont have an extra computer doing nothing most of the time, you actually keep updating it and getting content for it.

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